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Technical FAQs on Hoists

Technical FAQs on Hoists

Please see below for technical FAQ's regarding hoists

Q1 How do I fix the hoist to the ceiling?

The hoist itself is designed to be simple to fix in in place. It can be fixed flush to the underside of your ceiling or in a ceiling/roof void.

In each corner of the top plate of the hoist there are a number of holes that will allow you to bolt your hoist in place. You will have to sort something to bolt into. Always use bolts for this kind of fixing - not screws.

The third picture on all our hoist products attempts to demonstrate how the hoist could be fixed.

Q2 Do I have to install the hoist directly above the fixture?

Yes. The hoist is designed to be fitted directly above the hanging fixture - it cannot be run through pulleys; this is not possible for two reasons:

  • The design of the connection plate (which lowers and raises) - see Q8. for more information.
  • It would put undue strain on the rope mechanism inside the hoist, which would eventually cause the hoist to fail.

Q3 The power specifications for the hoist seem rather high - why is this the case?

Firstly we are not electricians nor are we informed about your specific projects electrical installations - please consult with a qualified electrician for advice on installing your hoist.

As a guide however: the stated ratings on our website our the manufacturers recommendations for the hoists and are to do primarily with the operation of the motor in the hoist. On start up the motor will create a power spike - which when under full load will be just below the stated requirements. In our experiences these requirements do not need to be taken literally throughout your electrically installation as all models of the hoist will normally operate on a normal 13A three pin plug. You do need to ensure however that the hoist's power supply is taken from the correct type of breaker. A "C" or "D" class breaker should accommodate the start up spike of the motor.

Q4 How do I wire the hoist?

The hoist has two lives and a common neutral. Live 1 (L1) gives power to the hoist and the light. L2 give power just to the light. It is our recommendation that if your hanging fixture has only one circuit you use L2 exclusively for the lights and L1 exclusively for the hoist.

As there is a common neutral both circuits have to come off the same breaker. Each live can be switched.

Q5 Can I split the common neutral on the hoists power block?

Yes, it is possible to split the common neutral, if you know what you are doing with electrics however we cannot recommend it and it will void your warranty with us.

Q6 I have a Lutron (or similar) lighting system - how do I accommodate this?

As standard it is our experience that the hoist will not work with Lutron or equivalent lighting systems due to the shared neutral. If you really want to use your Lutron system - see Q5. above about splitting the neutral.

Q7 Can I operate my lights on a dimmer switch?

Yes, no problem. The hoist however will not operate correctly if it doesn't have full power - so if you switch L1 with a dimmer switch ensure it is on full before trying to operate the hoist.

Q8 How does my hanging fixture get power?

The hanging fixture connects to a round connection plate (usually red or white), on the hoist, which is about 85mm in diameter and goes up and down when the hoist is operated. On the underside of this connection plate there is a shackle arrangement to hold your fixture and three female electrical pins (two lives - L1 & L2, and a neutral - N). Your fixture wires to this connection plate, using spade connectors to push onto the pins. On the upper side of the connection plate are three metal rings. When the connection plate lowers it disconnects from the power supply. This is a safety feature to allow persons to work on the hanging fixture completely free from the risk of electrocution. When the connection plate is in the fully raised position the three rings make contact with three copper pins on the hoist which reconnects power to the fixture.

In short the plate un-plugs from power when lowered and plugs itself in when fully raised. There is no cable reel and there is no winding or un-winding of electrical cable.

Q9 How is my hanging fixture earthed?

The hoist is earthed internally and this cable goes into the black connection block to the side of the hoist. Wire your electrical earth to this as normal.

Your hanging fixture is connected to a round connection plate and is powered through this, when lowered it receives no power (see Q8. above). On the base of the connection plate there is a round nut, to earth your fixture attach an earth wire to this and retighten - we recommend that you use some lock tight help ensure this doesn't come undone again. When your fixture is fully raised it will earth through the hoists earth.

Q10 Can I seal my hoist up in my ceiling and/or plaster over it?

This is thoroughly not recommended. As with all electrical devices, a certain amount of ventilation is required so the product doesn't over heat. Secondly the hoist should be accessible for maintenance. Ideally the hoist should be installed in a roof void where access can be easily obtained.

Q11 Can I connect my hoist to the same electric cable that the light fitting uses?

The hoist and the light fitting need to be wired in a particular way, off their own dedicated supply. It is recommended that the hoist is wired so it can be powered down/turned off when not in use. Please refer to our wiring guide for further information. Leaving the hoist powered up when not in use will lead to the ultimate failure of some electronic components.

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